Is RTX a Total Waste of Money??

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With real-time raytracing availability almost reaching 3 years of time, people starting to actually ask if they should "future proof" for RTX. But can you tell if RTX is even on?

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rusty_frame 44 perccel
i suppose the difference between RTX and rasterisation will be more obvious in games with less proficient devs?
4MaTC 2 órája
Christian Temelkoski
Christian Temelkoski 8 órája
no, no is the answer. even if i did i can always go to the nexus of that game and get a reshade lol
Ada Loveless
Ada Loveless 8 órája
SOTR isn't the greatest example of RTX... it is a pretty terrible one actually. Control and Watchdogs Legion do RTX well. If you look into a building reflection, there's certainly no doubt that RTX is on.
Lars Andersen
Lars Andersen 13 órája
Take off the stupid masks.
natmiamac 15 órája
dudes with face nappies, weird.
Ulex 15 órája
*TLDR: Yes*
Lord Nelson
Lord Nelson 18 órája
"Linus scares me becuase he always wants more energy" lol
Avik Bara
Avik Bara 21 órája
I can't tell the difference most of the time but I am a person that played games like Contra and Dave so I am just happy I get to play 3D games. I own a 3090 for work and rarely game on it as well. I noticed rtx depends on the game a lot for example deliver us the moon is a game where I can clearly see the difference, bfV(fucking insane amount of cheaters in MP) is one where I can sometimes see the difference and there are a plethora where I cannot distinguish rtx on/of at all. One thing I love about my card is that I can run most games even ones that my friend are still making and they struggle to test run on their systems.
and ?
and ? 23 órája
You should have locked the framerate to 60fps so they couldn't tell from the smoothness which was RTX. Obviously.
0sn4ke0 23 órája
I'm seeing linus in RTX
Gun Napja
you really need to focus to see the difference. For now. In few years it will get better
MrYodaman90 Napja
Lumen has entered the chat...
TheAngryDanishViking Napja
Ray Tracing always felt more like a 'glow' to me. It's nothing something you really SEE as a layman-normie.... It's just a slight difference is all. At least with the current level of tech.
Gaius Julius Caesar
Gaius Julius Caesar Napja
Anthony. Tell me one thing this man doesn't do right.
Dizzy Titan
Dizzy Titan Napja
Que Henry Cavil meme "fps"
R. Keane
R. Keane Napja
This is why I think most developers will lean in heavily on RT reflections over everything else the technology can do, it’s just so much easier to pitch and easier to recognize for average players
durrik2flyy Napja
So, can developers just set RT going in a scene and then go back in and "copy," that lighting through rasterization? It would probably save a lot of figuring out that they have to do as far as creating artificial lighting goes.
durrik2flyy Napja
@R. Keane Pretty cool to use PT/RT as a tool for development! Also, I was unaware of this! I never finished the game so I'm excited to play through the rest of it with RT!
R. Keane
R. Keane Napja
Devs already do that, Doom Eternal had pathtracing baked into the game world, but even then there are things they can’t “fake” like the dynamic reflections, so ID software is putting out an RTX patch for it later this month
Diego Garcia
Diego Garcia Napja
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Leogamer Napja
Minecraft is so easy because its a different version
xNFR Napja
i say it again minecraft? ffs really its a fcking 8bit game
Angelo Solares
Angelo Solares Napja
"Is RTX a Total Waste of Money??" No, it's a total waste of kidneys.
Christoph Schoppe
Christoph Schoppe Napja
Its kind of unfair though because those games often only feature a specific part of the "ray tracing suite" and people probably didn't always look in the right areas of the frame. But that's NVidia, again, trying to trick casual consumers into thinking that rtx=rtx like how they don't make a difference between laptop gpus and dekstop gpus anymore.
GuruTheCoder Napja
Cubensis Napja
sad they still wear those harmful slave masks
Lawyer Lawyer
Lawyer Lawyer Napja
Alex battaglia is having a stroke watching this video.
xXYannuschXx 2 napja
There sadly are hardly any games that utilize Ray Tracing in a good way, many use them for flashy effects like Battlefield. However there are good ones like Metro Exodus Enhanced, where the lighting looks alot better, or Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, where alot of reflective surfaces have realistic reflections.
xXYannuschXx 18 órája
@R. Keane IMHO the moment I went into dark areas and saw the shadows on charactes I knew it was running with RT, its a day and night difference. The game overall has alot more contrast with RT on.
R. Keane
R. Keane 19 órája
@xXYannuschXx I think metro exodus is going to be the odd one out I have a 3090, and the game looks great, but it’s very hard to tell without a side by side comparison imo, cause it looks “how I remember it” without one With RT reflections it’s always apparent when they’re on because they’re immediately noticeably
xXYannuschXx 20 órája
@R. Keane I think we are finally moving away from flashy RTX effects and use it for more practical stuff. In Metro Exodus Enhanced it is mostly just used for Global Illumination and Ambient Occlusion, but that alone makes a HUGE diffence
R. Keane
R. Keane Napja
And control, and Spiderman, and cyberpunk, and soon doom eternal The reflections in these games are hugely different then their rasterized counterparts
engg division
engg division 2 napja
Why not make a video for assembling a good PC for tensorflow and AI persons?
WuB 2 napja
Yes, it is.
Space Cowboy
Space Cowboy 2 napja
The new Unreal engine 5 knocks the RTX card out of the park. Don't throw your money away you will see. what is coming with New engines.
Uni B
Uni B 2 napja
SIDΞKICK 2 napja
about a year ago, and this was even during pandemic, i bought an ASUS TUF GTX 1660 Super X3 the one with 3 fans for Php 16,500.00 ( $340 ). the 1660 Ti at the time was around Php 20,000.00 ( $412 ) nowadays the ASUS TUF GTX 1660 Super cost more than TWICE the price !!! and the early RTX which cost around Php 25,000 now cost Php 40,000 - 50,000 !!! WHAT THE HELL !!!
Paul Gloor
Paul Gloor 2 napja
What I'm gleaning here is that a DEAD giveaway of rasterization and shaders is a shimmer around free objects when they overlap water. I have seen that on SOOO many games where I'm holding a weapon or item and its edges deform like the water behind it!
Cyberspacedweller 2 napja
I can tell it's on because my framerate drops....
Big Pork
Big Pork 2 napja
I don't think whether people can tell whether a technology is implemented is a good measure of whether it adds anything. Someone who is oblivious to what ray tracing is will still notice weird quirks like reflections of obscured objects disappearing in the case of screen space reflections.
Mike Vercimak
Mike Vercimak 2 napja
RTX is more trash than Linus and his channel
GlossGhost 2 napja
Did it never occur to you that you could have used fps limiter for the performance difference?
Bruno Agostinho
Bruno Agostinho 2 napja
If they used BF5, it would definetly be noticeable
Devanshu Kushte
Devanshu Kushte 3 napja
But my question is, is it good for animation and rendering 3d?
HBMHD 3 napja
As a 3D artist, I love that Linus is *the only person* I've seen that explain Ray-Tracing properly from an unbiased-rendering perspective using render engines like Blender's Cycles, I swear a lot of dumb kids claim to achieve Ray-tracing using some ReShade post-processing that simply amps the ambient lighting, and it pisses me off that they get thousands of approvals from other dumb kids that don't know how ray-tracing works...
HBMHD 9 órája
@Travis Boudreaux I'm saying dumb kids, because they are dumb kids. It is one thing to misunderstand a concept, that doesn't make you dumb; to claim you not only understand the concept, but are also able to achieve it, however, makes you dumb. You not being able to understand that difference before attacking me, makes you dumb too.
Travis Boudreaux
Travis Boudreaux 10 órája
Saying dumb kids makes you a dumb elitist. You're pissed off that non-professionals don't understand your technical field of work? You're not providing medicine or important infrastructure to society. Take a deep breath, this isn't a big a deal as you think it is.
ChamaDon 3 napja
Why isnt Metro Exodus in the test? I honestly saw the most difference in that game with and without RTX
Nick Janse
Nick Janse 3 napja
Since when do rays project from the camera sensor?
Da Seeker
Da Seeker 3 napja
what about dlss that comes with the rtx cards, maybe worth the extra money for those rt cores there
Emeric Mellot
Emeric Mellot 3 napja
2080 ti since november 2018, for me it's always RTX off DLSS off (i bought the card for 4k as my screen is 75")
CLEAR EDGE interiors & Branding
CLEAR EDGE interiors & Branding 4 napja
how about 3d working & rendering ?????
secret Waffles
secret Waffles 4 napja
I’ve never seen Rtx…. I mean I see it on HUload but it’s not the same
Icecold steele
Icecold steele 4 napja
5:20 guy was cgeating had the f3 which is showing 3060 top right
willmt 4 napja
Just look at a reflection, if it clearly reflects objects ect. Rtx is on
Rachel Frei
Rachel Frei 4 napja
You'll need RTX because developers will stop paying attention to their lighting on systems without it. Even though game developers know how to make reflections and shadows look good without RTX by hand right now, they'll soon stop doing it since they can just let RTX handle it and it will still look good on RTX systems.
Alex Casado
Alex Casado 4 napja
Such an annoying voice...smh
DanSyndrome 4 napja
DLSS has always been the more interesting technology. I'd take more frames at higher resolution any day
R. Keane
R. Keane Napja
Technically speaking DLSS is higher frames at much lower resolutions, the up scaling is just fantastic
Pablo Ezcurlbar
Pablo Ezcurlbar 4 napja
12:40 that's also a fascinating part about listening experiences. Your mind tends to add missing nuances, when trying to compare really similar equipment, making it almost impossible to pinpoint that particular difference in detail.
Zulfadhli Jassni
Zulfadhli Jassni 5 napja
do i need it? no. do i want it? hell yeah
Ryan Lee De Leon
Ryan Lee De Leon 5 napja
No noticeable differences to be honest maybe as of now until 2023.
Cyrol 5 napja
And here I sit, thinking about how the guys getting the System with RTX on with Minecraft got it wrong. It LITERALLY says RTX at the top of the screen.
WhimsiGhoul 5 napja
All I need is less thermal problems in my computer and I will be a happy tech camper. Everything else is bonus candy.
Douglas Robertson
Douglas Robertson 6 napja
love your channel, but would be ecstatic if the conversation ever shifted away from gaming and engaged vfx processing, animation, rendering, music production etc.
Just Tony
Just Tony 6 napja
12:06 closelier?!?!?!
DoctorDothraki 6 napja
2:56 That bird is called a resplendent quetzal
Alexis Hernandez
Alexis Hernandez 6 napja
And now with Unreal Engine 5 coming with techniques like Lumen or stuffs like "open" AMD FidelityFX... RTX gets less relevance!
Carlos Erazo
Carlos Erazo 6 napja
yes is a waste, i tested with fortnite with my rtx 2070 super and my temo goes really high and fps drops, i disable and dont use it anymore
Pog Tuber
Pog Tuber 6 napja
The effect isn't something you actively search for, although you can certainly do that. Once you play something like Metro Exodus Enhanced versus the standard version, you get a general sense that the lighting is just more realistic. It's kind of like seeing a movie in HDR after seeing it in SDR. You might not be able to pick out specifically where it has the most dramatic effect, but you know it just looks better. That being said... Tomb Raider is not a good example of it. RT reflections in Cyberpunk or Metro Exodus Enhanced in general are both much better examples.
Blizz 6 napja
Masa Maeda
Masa Maeda 6 napja
The Minecraft setup was pretty bad too be fair. It makes a much bigger difference in buildings and caves.
Mystic Gaming
Mystic Gaming 7 napja
Yeahhh.. to hell with ray tracing
akash jha
akash jha 7 napja
Cyberpunk Medium ray traced lighting is night and day difference!
Steam 7 napja
IDK about games but render 3D animations is where it would surely show a difference
Banana Cockston
Banana Cockston 8 napja
Amiel Medina
Amiel Medina 8 napja
I would have liked to see comparisons with less outdated rtx solutions for example metro Exodus enhanced edition. I'm quite aware of rendering technices but I think the results would have been different
John Miccarelli
John Miccarelli 8 napja
In order to even get full benefit of RTX, one would have to start over with a build that includes a motherboard that has the PCIe 4.0 slot. The cost of a new build and the cost of the RTX card isn't worth it yet. If you can get an GTX 1080ti.........stick with it for at least 3 more years.
Czech Death
Czech Death 8 napja
Well depends on the game tho. I love cyberpunk with RTX, but it also brings as much bugs and glitches as it brings goodness. Metro enhanced edition, yea looks awesome. but... I dont feel like my 2080ti was worth it.
Lao Zsik
Lao Zsik 9 napja
helthuismartin 9 napja
Fact is NOBODY is watching streaming water in computer games.
helthuismartin 9 napja
Anthony can.Whe love Anthony.Iam happy Anthony is NOT normal.
Dr. Syed Muhammad Manazer-Ul-Hassan Shah
Dr. Syed Muhammad Manazer-Ul-Hassan Shah 9 napja
I mean isn't the purpose of rtx was to flex as bedrock players with the best shaders in the world
Allan Weisser Verdessi
Allan Weisser Verdessi 9 napja
One of the eason of they failed is because you used vey poor raytraced implementation games. You should use Cyberpunk. In that game you could actually tell the diference easier, everything looks way more inmersive
Frank Harwald
Frank Harwald 9 napja
The biggest problem with ray tracing in games is that to see that it's far more realistic than the best rasterizers with shaders to emulate effects, it needs a fundamentally different rendering engine, an engine that unlike most rasterizer engines doesn't cull objects outside of the viewing frustum & doesn't before hidden object removal until all rendering is done on top of the fact that accesses to textures becomes more difficult to predict & hence more difficult to cache ultimately resulting in a massive increase in memory space & bandwidth requirements - & this is most pronounced when ray tracing scenes with a lot of multi-reflections of objects otherwise not directly but behind or aside the viewers direction. & making objects semi-transparent or adding a little bit of unsharpness to these reflections makes the problem even worse.
Frank Harwald
Frank Harwald 9 napja
To give a little perspective on ray tracing in popular movies & games: afaik. 1993 Jurassic Park was the first commercially successful full length movie to heavily use ray tracing as 1994 Donkey Kong Country wsa the first popular video game to consist entirely of ray traced graphics. But in both cases they only every used offline ray tracing (using Alias Wavefront on SGI Irix machines) - low-latency real time ray tracing was deemed impossible until almost 20-25 years later now.
2cool0 9 napja
shadow of the tomb raider only had ray tracing on shadows i believe so the whole sun reflection test is meaningless
SASenglish 9 napja
i mean, maybe if you used a RTX game and not a game that wasn't built with RTX and just updated/Patched after.
Vapey McVape
Vapey McVape 10 napja
I wouldn't know. I got an RTX 3070 for free.
Z390 10 napja
Ray tracing made GPU evolution worse, we've made 0% performance per watt improvement over RTX 2000 series
Choccy Milk Gamer
Choccy Milk Gamer 10 napja
I like how they used the SEUS shaders when the Complimentary shaders can look more like RTX on Minecraft
trex70 10 napja
problem of this test is ,its a 50/50 Choice.
voodooo69 10 napja
still loving the GTX 1080 ti
VRChance 11 napja
Why is there a screen shot of a VRC SDK at 13:26 and its for a furry avatar? Pretty curious...
Oskar Lindgren
Oskar Lindgren 12 napja
Why is this even a question, yes you can see if RT is on.. also you should test this in a dark room with only one light source like a window.
Nico Wadham
Nico Wadham 12 napja
06:56 "Minceraft" :D
Rodrigo Diaz
Rodrigo Diaz 12 napja
if this is the level of difference in 2021 then i will not buy an RTX,
Bashu 13 napja
Control is THE game that really did a great job of utilizing the potential of RT. It looks absolutely stunning with RT enabled, like it's a playable Showcase for RT technology. It quickly turned out for me though that the gameplay itself is also fantastic.
Nuz Nuz
Nuz Nuz 13 napja
Timothy 13 napja
If you have to “pixel peep” I think this answers the question. It’s pretty pointless. Just like 4k. Even on my 75inch tv, the difference between high quality 720p and 4k is not much at all at 2.5m distance.
Tom Haflinger
Tom Haflinger 13 napja
5:45 - Am I seeing chromatic aberration? If so, nice touch.
SquidCaps 13 napja
Most likely we will end up with a hybrid where certain things are generated with raytracing and some with shaders but also raytracing being used to generate new shader maps on the fly, and maybe even shaders affecting raytracing. If i don't need to think about shadowmaps and reflections ever again, i'd be quite happy..
Illegalquantity 14 napja
Nope! RTX is the eighth wonder! Except for AMD fanboyz.
hipp0333 14 napja
If a game freezes than the RT is on.
Sergiu Achim
Sergiu Achim 14 napja
Yes it's a Big waste of money !
no yuo
no yuo 14 napja
Who the fuck can't tell RTX Minecraft from non-rtx?
m m
m m 14 napja
"am i paying for something i never asked for?" ahh the seller's dream... ray tracing always sounded very sexy to me, but then i remember when just having still frames of glass and silver objects on a checkerboard floor was enough to make people go "ooooh...ray tracing..." :-)
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